[joomla] PHP mailing lists
Zachary Fuller
plebe at plebeian.org
Fri Feb 3 19:11:10 EST 2006
Hi Phil,
Thanks so much for your help. This looks like what I want. I'll buy
it myself and give it a go for my own newsletter and recommend site/s
use it if all looks good.
Yes, I know about the mosCE option to use absolute URLs. I see why
this is important. Thanks.
re: SEF. I suppose this is not necessary if it works as you say. I
was thinking in terms of a "physical URL" they could access later for
archives, but this is not really necessary as I see now looking at
the demo.
I gave the demo a look-see. Fantastic! This is exactly what I was
looking for. I suppose if I was to get anal, I'd request a feature
of editing a "basic" newsletter creation ability through the front-
end, but given the lack of quality newsletters for Joomla now it
seems a front-runner. --Not to insult anyone's hard work on other
systems of course! BTW, I'm a phil-a-form owner as well.
Right! Thanks,
Joel
Joel Fuller
The MA
Multi-media and Internet Solutions
jfuller at the-ma.com
http://www.the-ma.com
On Feb 3, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Phil Taylor wrote:
>> 1. Since Joomla does not create static (physical) pages, how will
>> this affect sending a newsletter using the standard (mosCE) editor
>> and image insertion?
> Newsletters in mosLM are not pages tat the site uses, you paste/
> create your HTML and Text versions of your newsletter either in
> Dreamweaver or using the built in WYSIWYG editor in mosLM and then
> hit the send. This gives you what you ask in terms of image
> insertion, apart from if you are usin gmosCE you have to change a
> configuraton option to show absolute urls for images (can be done
> in mosCE configuration component.
>> 2. Does mosListMessenger use the same method of building pages as
>> Joomla (images on server, data in database), or does it "build" a
>> physical page and store it on the server for sending and later
>> retrieval?
> It saves the HTML/Text you add in the Compose message screen to the
> database so you can resend that mail again in the future, all
> images are stored as normal on the server.
>> 3. Will all this work with some kind of SEF component so I can use a
>> URL like http://mysite.com/newsletter/letter_01-01-06.html ?
> Not sure why you would want a newsletter using SEF, but mosLM will
> send whatever HTML you like in the newsletter.
>> 4. Can I create a newsletter from the front-end?
> No. Try the demo at http://www.phil-taylor.ocm/Demo Phil.
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> Zachary Fuller wrote:
>> That's great to hear Phil! I'll download your trial and check out
>> the interface. One thing I'm not sure if you've had a request for is
>> this:
>>
>> Obviously to create a really "fancy" letter, someone experienced
>> enough to create a page in Dreamweaver or GoLive and upload the page
>> and images could handle it, then send that url or page as the letter.
>>
>> Most of my clients, however, barely know what "Dream-receiver" is,
>> and want to send email newsletters but require using the SAME editor
>> they use in Joomla (after being trained) to create their letter!
>> This way they learn ONE system, and can style (I can provide some
>> custom CSS selectors for use in the editor) the letter as they wish
>> as easily as they do in creating new content. So if your system lets
>> me create newsletters with the standard editor and inside Joomla,
>> that's great!
>>
>> Technically I have some practical concerns perhaps some of you all
>> can add to. I often deal with folks that are either technically
>> naive, or elderly and just want it to "work." I need a system that
>> will perform reliably and "safely" (read: no work-arounds to muck
>> through). They also deal with large lists (in the 1,000's).
>>
>> 1. Since Joomla does not create static (physical) pages, how will
>> this affect sending a newsletter using the standard (mosCE) editor
>> and image insertion?
>> 2. Does mosListMessenger use the same method of building pages as
>> Joomla (images on server, data in database), or does it "build" a
>> physical page and store it on the server for sending and later
>> retrieval?
>> 3. Will all this work with some kind of SEF component so I can use a
>> URL like http://mysite.com/newsletter/letter_01-01-06.html ?
>> 4. Can I create a newsletter from the front-end?
>>
>> To put it simply, I want to be able to log-in, create a newsletter
>> with the standard Joomla editor, CSS, and images in the /stories
>> folder. Then send the resulting pages' URL as the newsletter (I
>> would paste the plain-text in where appropriate).
>>
>> Thanks for the help. Great discussion on newsletters folks!
>>
>> Joel
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2006, at 11:43 PM, Graham Spice wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Awesome - thanks for proving me wrong, Phil! I'll look into it as
>>> this
>>> is something I've been looking for for a while now.
>>>
>>> Cheers-
>>> Graham Spice
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Phil Taylor <nyphp at phil-taylor.com>
>>>>
>>>> That is not true :-) The patch to Joomla registration of adding
>>>> new
>>>> users to mosLM is available at http://www.phil-taylor.com/Trial
>>>>
>>>> Phil Taylor
>>>> Developer of mosListMessenger!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Graham Spice wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> There is no API available for PHPlist...yet. There has been
>>>>> discussion
>>>>> about the beginnings of an API and the SOAP protocol on the
>>>>> developer
>>>>> discussion list in the past few weeks. Things could open up there
>>>>> quickly from what I can tell.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can read the emails between the developers here:
>>>>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.phplist.devel See the thread
>>>>> called: Web Service Interface to PHPList
>>>>>
>>>>> Other newsletter related forum posts
>>>>>
>>>>> * http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,
>>>>> 30369.msg193037.html#msg193037
>>>>> * http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,12735.0.html
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 2, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Norman ONeil wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could also try phplist if you want a challenge, the other
>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>> for one is put out by http://www.phil-taylor.com and is called
>>>>>>> mos/
>>>>>>> jos listmessenger. The latter one is integrated into joomla
>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>> nicely, but still missing bounce processing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> I disagree with this last statement because mosListMessenger does
>>>>> not
>>>>> integrate with Joomla's user data! There used to be a hack
>>>>> available
>>>>> to automatically sign someone up for the newsletter when they
>>>>> registered but that is no longer available. Being able to use
>>>>> Joomla's
>>>>> user data is is critical to the integration, IMHO. Related forum
>>>>> post:
>>>>>
>>>>> * http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,
>>>>> 34399.msg192820.html#msg192820
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers-
>>>>> Graham Spice
>>>>>
>>>>>
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