From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Sat May  5 06:57:26 2012
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 07:57:26 -0300
Subject: [joomla] mailto not working in Joomla 2.5
In-Reply-To: <CALfVZ3_oXxpEiX4uhczD8jp_S8NiSqbFmA2WxNerx52eN4OkSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALfVZ3_oXxpEiX4uhczD8jp_S8NiSqbFmA2WxNerx52eN4OkSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHM6=OBzVSpzhMLDRA7-huhJi5e44x1MOie38fDBdH2xAFU62Q@mail.gmail.com>

Check if email cloaking is activated and causing this error on your sites.
(Plugin Manager > Email cloaking)
If you are running 2.5, change the Admin filters to allow you or those who
must to write HTML in your articles. (Configuration > Filters)

Hope this helps

Good luck

2012/4/29 Ellen Rothwax <ellen.rothwax at gmail.com>

> I have been working on several 2.5 websites and it has just occurred to me
> that my email links do not work. These are email links in module and
> articles.My code is:
>
> <a href="mailto:info at domain.com?subject=Inquiry">info</a>
>
> It looks like a link but when I click on it, it doesn't do anything. This
> happens in different sites I am working on, so I don't think it is template
> related since I am using different templates for each.
> The email settings in the global config are the default settings.
> Any ideas why or how to fix this?
> Ellen
>

-- 
Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
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From mkonop at gmail.com  Mon May  7 09:07:51 2012
From: mkonop at gmail.com (M Konop)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 09:07:51 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Meeting Reminder
Message-ID: <CAJ4JCSR8wyNbDEHStY5fyf_BBL58x8Thz3FUToNSGHqx_3fAPA@mail.gmail.com>

Just a reminder that our Joomla NYC Users Group monthly meeting is this
Thursday, May 10th at 6:30pm.

Presentations this month include *
Peter Laudati: *Developer evangelist with Microsoft and a huge supporter of
Joomla and Joomla NYC. Joomla integration with Microsoft products,
including MS SQL.
*Scott Wolpow: *An overview of RedSHOP, a popular e-commerce component from
RedCOMPONENT <http://redcomponent.com/redshop>.

: 6:30-8:30, 146 West 65th Street. Enter through the Lincoln Center Theater
marquee located on the south side of 65th street, between Broadway and
Amsterdam. Walk  towards the end of the hall and will see a road leading to
a drop-off area. Once you get to this road, make a left and then another
left on the glass doors of the office building (there is a sign on the wall
next to the door, which has the address listed). The doors are locked, and
the guard in the traffic circle will buzz you in.

-- 
Marian Konop
Gotham Websites
www.gothamwebsites.com
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Sat May 12 15:14:07 2012
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 15:14:07 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Forums
Message-ID: <4FAEB67F.2000600@gmail.com>

Just wondering what forums people are using in Joomla these days and 
whats popular/good?


From contact at chrisfrench.me  Sat May 12 15:19:17 2012
From: contact at chrisfrench.me (Chris French)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 12:19:17 -0700
Subject: [joomla] Forums
In-Reply-To: <4FAEB67F.2000600@gmail.com>
References: <4FAEB67F.2000600@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DDB35CD6-9675-4312-93DE-61A35454B8B6@chrisfrench.me>

I used ninjaboard for a while which works great, but just recently switched to Kunena which is more of a standard forum. 

Kunena, is about to release their 2.0 version which should be really good running on 2.5 install. 

'Chris

On May 12, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Gary Mort wrote:

> Just wondering what forums people are using in Joomla these days and whats popular/good?
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> 
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> 
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



From sbritton at gmail.com  Tue May 15 15:43:54 2012
From: sbritton at gmail.com (Stephen Britton)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 15:43:54 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Free Joomla security class from OS Training
Message-ID: <CABcNofO5gqVG-tHs7jvE823ewX7c-ooeCapxvbXGfNmPozqf0A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Gang,

Make some time to check out Steve Burge's excellent and free Joomla
security course. It covers backing up Joomla sites and how to use Akeeba's
excellent Admin Tools suite.

http://www.ostraining.com/blog/news/joomla-security/

Also note that OS Training and Steve have been providing food to every
Joomla NYC meeting for the past two years. If you know someone who needs
Joomla, WordPress or Drupal training, tell them to check out the online
videos and live classroom instruction at OSTraining.com

- - - Steve

-- 
Stephen Britton
Technology Consultant
sbritton at gmail.com
Twitter: @StephenBritton
ph: 914-661-0040

"Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." -
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From jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com  Thu May 17 11:12:16 2012
From: jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com (Janet Sullivan)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:12:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] HTML5Boilerplate and Modernizr.com
Message-ID: <1337267536.9119.YahooMailNeo@web160404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Has anyone used the HTML5bolierplate.com or modernizr.com with Joomla templates?
Do most commercial templates work with these tools?? or is it hit and miss?? If someone has
had good results with a particular template using these tools, please identify the template...
Thanks!


Janet Sullivan
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From sbritton at gmail.com  Thu May 17 11:35:59 2012
From: sbritton at gmail.com (Stephen Britton)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 11:35:59 -0400
Subject: [joomla] HTML5Boilerplate and Modernizr.com
In-Reply-To: <1337267536.9119.YahooMailNeo@web160404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1337267536.9119.YahooMailNeo@web160404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABcNofO4Wz6GwSSr5ETf9MTXeyKHbfoHAdJfGruXXOwTChBpyg@mail.gmail.com>

HTML5 Boilerplate and mondernizr are libraries used to create HTML5
sites/applications. You would not use these libraries to be used in
conjunction a Joomla template, but rather to design and build Joomla
templates.

The majority of commercial Joomla templates are XHTML. Although, the major
template clubs are slowly rolling out HTML5 templates, notably JoomlArt and
Joomla Bamboo.

The problem is Joomla 2.5's module chrome only supports XHTML. I have been
told that they are working on an upcoming release that will support HTML5.
So right now, if you want to develop HTML5 sites with Joomla, you need to
work with a third party library. This involves changing a lot of the code
in com_content.

The two free frameworks that can be used for developing HTML5 Joomla
templates are: Matt Thomas' excellent Construct framework
http://construct-framework.com/

And Seth Warburton's One Web framework. Note that you can also download
Seth's HTML5 overrides and use them in your own HTML5 templates as I have
done.
http://internet-inspired.com/

JoomlaBamboo has some nice looking HTML5 templates, although I have not
personally checked them out yet.
http://www.joomlabamboo.com/joomla-templates/responsive-joomla-templates

- - - Steve


On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Has anyone used the HTML5bolierplate.com or modernizr.com with Joomla
> templates?
> Do most commercial templates work with these tools?  or is it hit and
> miss?  If someone has
> had good results with a particular template using these tools, please
> identify the template...
> Thanks!
>
> Janet Sullivan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>



-- 
Stephen Britton
Technology Consultant
sbritton at gmail.com
Twitter: @StephenBritton
ph: 914-661-0040

"Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." -
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From jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com  Thu May 17 12:18:55 2012
From: jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com (Janet Sullivan)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 09:18:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] HTML5Boilerplate and Modernizr.com
In-Reply-To: <CABcNofO4Wz6GwSSr5ETf9MTXeyKHbfoHAdJfGruXXOwTChBpyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1337267536.9119.YahooMailNeo@web160404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CABcNofO4Wz6GwSSr5ETf9MTXeyKHbfoHAdJfGruXXOwTChBpyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1337271535.14700.YahooMailNeo@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Steve.? A couple of follow-up questions, if I may.
"The problem is Joomla 2.5's module chrome only supports XHTML"
Is this a reference to the chrome browser or does chrome refer to a joomla-ism?

I can sort of see where html5boilerplate may be a problem, but I would have thought modernizr would work because all it does is 

test browser capabilities and add a bunch of classes to the CSS.? The additional classes make is easy to degrade a drop shadow, for example
to a plain border.
? "So right now, if you want to develop HTML5 sites with Joomla, you need 
to work with a third party library. This involves changing a lot of the 
code in com_content."
?"Although, the major template clubs are slowly rolling out HTML5 templates,?notably JoomlArt and Joomla Bamboo "
???????????? If I put these two points together, does that mean if I want to use any of the HTML5 templates from JoomlArt or Bambbo, I have a lot of work to do to change the com_content?
???????????? I assume changing the com-content means mucking around with the php code?
???????????? What type of third party library would I need to look for?

Thanks!


Janet Sullivan



________________________________
 From: Stephen Britton <sbritton at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org> 
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] HTML5Boilerplate and Modernizr.com
 

HTML5 Boilerplate and mondernizr are libraries used to create HTML5 sites/applications. You would not use these libraries to be used in conjunction a Joomla template, but rather to design and build Joomla templates.

The majority of commercial Joomla templates are XHTML. Although, the major template clubs are slowly rolling out HTML5 templates,?notably JoomlArt and Joomla Bamboo.

The problem is Joomla 2.5's module chrome only supports XHTML. I have been told that they are working on an upcoming release that will support HTML5.? So right now, if you want to develop HTML5 sites with Joomla, you need to work with a third party library. This involves changing a lot of the code in com_content.

The two free frameworks that can be used for developing HTML5 Joomla templates are: Matt Thomas' excellent Construct framework?
http://construct-framework.com/ 

And Seth Warburton's One Web framework. Note that you can also download Seth's HTML5 overrides and use them in your own HTML5 templates as I have done.?
http://internet-inspired.com/ 

JoomlaBamboo has some nice looking HTML5 templates, although I have not personally checked them out yet.
http://www.joomlabamboo.com/joomla-templates/responsive-joomla-templates?


- - - Steve


On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Has anyone used the HTML5bolierplate.com or modernizr.com with Joomla templates?
>Do most commercial templates work with these tools?? or is it hit and miss?? If someone has
>had good results with a particular template using these tools, please identify the template...
>Thanks!
>
>
>Janet Sullivan
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
>Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>


-- 
Stephen Britton
Technology Consultant
sbritton at gmail.com
Twitter: @StephenBritton

ph: 914-661-0040


"Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." - George Bernard Shaw

_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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From matt at betweenbrain.com  Thu May 17 12:49:55 2012
From: matt at betweenbrain.com (Matt Thomas)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 12:49:55 -0400
Subject: [joomla] HTML5Boilerplate and Modernizr.com
In-Reply-To: <CABcNofO4Wz6GwSSr5ETf9MTXeyKHbfoHAdJfGruXXOwTChBpyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1337267536.9119.YahooMailNeo@web160404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CABcNofO4Wz6GwSSr5ETf9MTXeyKHbfoHAdJfGruXXOwTChBpyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOXGsbJ5bQAJNR5NMroVW=gh7HwBXf31+SqQUkq-rmhWrrJHvg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the kind words Steve!

You hit the nail on the head, and I just wanted to add a few of points.

Joomla's module chrome (http://docs.joomla.org/Module_chrome) can
be overridden, or you can even add your own. We've created an HTML5 module
chrome for Construct5, which you can see at
https://github.com/construct-framework/construct5/blob/master/html/modules.php.
That module chrome, and all of the HTML5 overrides used in Construct5, can
also be downloaded at either
https://github.com/construct-framework/construct5/tags.

Seth's very excellent One Web uses bits and pieces from HTML5 Boilerplate
and Andy Clarke's 320 and Up (
http://stuffandnonsense.co.uk/projects/320andup/). Seth actually just
pushed a new version of One Web last night, and you can see it live at
http://joomlafuture.com/.

Most HTML5 templates come with a full, or at least fairly comprehensive,
set of overrides. So, you don't need to worry about changing com_content or
other core components or modules.

Along these lines, Joomla 3.0 will be using Bootstrap (
http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/) for the core markup, and as such,
will be HTML5.

Enjoy!

Best,

Matt Thomas
Founder betweenbrain <http://betweenbrain.com/>?
Lead Developer Construct Template Development
Framework<http://construct-framework.com/>
Phone: 203.632.9322
Twitter: @betweenbrain
Github: https://github.com/betweenbrain



On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Stephen Britton <sbritton at gmail.com>wrote:

> HTML5 Boilerplate and mondernizr are libraries used to create HTML5
> sites/applications. You would not use these libraries to be used in
> conjunction a Joomla template, but rather to design and build Joomla
> templates.
>
> The majority of commercial Joomla templates are XHTML. Although, the major
> template clubs are slowly rolling out HTML5 templates, notably JoomlArt and
> Joomla Bamboo.
>
> The problem is Joomla 2.5's module chrome only supports XHTML. I have been
> told that they are working on an upcoming release that will support HTML5.
> So right now, if you want to develop HTML5 sites with Joomla, you need to
> work with a third party library. This involves changing a lot of the code
> in com_content.
>
> The two free frameworks that can be used for developing HTML5 Joomla
> templates are: Matt Thomas' excellent Construct framework
> http://construct-framework.com/
>
> And Seth Warburton's One Web framework. Note that you can also download
> Seth's HTML5 overrides and use them in your own HTML5 templates as I have
> done.
> http://internet-inspired.com/
>
> JoomlaBamboo has some nice looking HTML5 templates, although I have not
> personally checked them out yet.
> http://www.joomlabamboo.com/joomla-templates/responsive-joomla-templates
>
> - - - Steve
>
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Has anyone used the HTML5bolierplate.com or modernizr.com with Joomla
>> templates?
>> Do most commercial templates work with these tools?  or is it hit and
>> miss?  If someone has
>> had good results with a particular template using these tools, please
>> identify the template...
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Janet Sullivan
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Stephen Britton
> Technology Consultant
> sbritton at gmail.com
> Twitter: @StephenBritton
> ph: 914-661-0040
>
> "Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." -
> George Bernard Shaw
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
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From sbritton at gmail.com  Thu May 17 12:54:40 2012
From: sbritton at gmail.com (Stephen Britton)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 12:54:40 -0400
Subject: [joomla] HTML5Boilerplate and Modernizr.com
In-Reply-To: <1337271535.14700.YahooMailNeo@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1337267536.9119.YahooMailNeo@web160404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CABcNofO4Wz6GwSSr5ETf9MTXeyKHbfoHAdJfGruXXOwTChBpyg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1337271535.14700.YahooMailNeo@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABcNofPSvc7bHtD4vWruQz0ApABm7F8APd9sfvpq8yNFbVvJgQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Thanks Steve.  A couple of follow-up questions, if I may.
> "The problem is Joomla 2.5's module chrome only supports XHTML"
> Is this a reference to the chrome browser or does chrome refer to a
> joomla-ism?
>
> If you do not build or heavily modify Joomla templates, you don't have to
worry about Module Chrome. If you are not making your own HTML5 Joomla
templates, please ignore the rest of my answer.

Module Chrome refers to the tags that go around the module placements. For
example,   the most common module tag is style="xhtml", this puts xhtml
tags around the module.

But HTML5 is different from XHTML. So if you used the HTML5 overrides from
Seth's One Web, you would use style="html5" and this would create Module
Chome that will comply with HTML5 standards (although, even HTML5 standards
is a open topic these days).


> I can sort of see where html5boilerplate may be a problem, but I would
> have thought modernizr would work because all it does is
> test browser capabilities and add a bunch of classes to the CSS.  The
> additional classes make is easy to degrade a drop shadow, for example
> to a plain border.
>
>   "So right now, if you want to develop HTML5 sites with Joomla, you need
> to work with a third party library. This involves changing a lot of the
> code in com_content."
>  "Although, the major template clubs are slowly rolling out HTML5
> templates, notably JoomlArt and Joomla Bamboo "
>              If I put these two points together, does that mean if I want
> to use any of the HTML5 templates from JoomlArt or Bambbo, I have a lot of
> work to do to change the com_content?
>              I assume changing the com-content means mucking around with
> the php code?
>              What type of third party library would I need to look for?
>

Sorry about the confusion. Sometimes I make the mistake of assuming that
everyone knows how Joomla overrides and templates work.

No. You do not have to do any coding. If you make your own templates, you
can just drag and drop the html5 override code from One Web or Construct
Framework and drop it into the override directory. The people from One Web
and Construct have done all the coding for you. They have spent all the
time rewriting the code in com_content so it will work with HTML5.

One of Joomla's best features is you can override the core Joomla code by
creating an override folder in the template files. This allows you to
change the core code without touching the actual core code. This way, you
are free to experiment and not worry about destroying the Joomla core code.

By far the easiest way to get an HTML5 Joomla template would be to purchase
one from a commercial company like JoomlArt and Joomla Bamboo. Most of
these companies use Modernizr or something like it so the templates will
work in older browsers.

My apologies for making this topic seems harder than it probably is.

All best,

Steve



>
> Thanks!
>
> Janet Sullivan
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Stephen Britton <sbritton at gmail.com>
> *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:35 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] HTML5Boilerplate and Modernizr.com
>
> HTML5 Boilerplate and mondernizr are libraries used to create HTML5
> sites/applications. You would not use these libraries to be used in
> conjunction a Joomla template, but rather to design and build Joomla
> templates.
>
> The majority of commercial Joomla templates are XHTML. Although, the major
> template clubs are slowly rolling out HTML5 templates, notably JoomlArt and
> Joomla Bamboo.
>
> The problem is Joomla 2.5's module chrome only supports XHTML. I have been
> told that they are working on an upcoming release that will support HTML5.
> So right now, if you want to develop HTML5 sites with Joomla, you need to
> work with a third party library. This involves changing a lot of the code
> in com_content.
>
> The two free frameworks that can be used for developing HTML5 Joomla
> templates are: Matt Thomas' excellent Construct framework
> http://construct-framework.com/
>
> And Seth Warburton's One Web framework. Note that you can also download
> Seth's HTML5 overrides and use them in your own HTML5 templates as I have
> done.
> http://internet-inspired.com/
>
> JoomlaBamboo has some nice looking HTML5 templates, although I have not
> personally checked them out yet.
> http://www.joomlabamboo.com/joomla-templates/responsive-joomla-templates
>
> - - - Steve
>
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> Has anyone used the HTML5bolierplate.com or modernizr.com with Joomla
> templates?
> Do most commercial templates work with these tools?  or is it hit and
> miss?  If someone has
> had good results with a particular template using these tools, please
> identify the template...
> Thanks!
>
> Janet Sullivan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
>
>
> --
> Stephen Britton
> Technology Consultant
> sbritton at gmail.com
> Twitter: @StephenBritton
> ph: 914-661-0040
>
> "Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." -
> George Bernard Shaw
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>



-- 
Stephen Britton
Technology Consultant
sbritton at gmail.com
Twitter: @StephenBritton
ph: 914-661-0040

"Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." -
George Bernard Shaw
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From sbritton at gmail.com  Thu May 17 14:40:12 2012
From: sbritton at gmail.com (Stephen Britton)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 14:40:12 -0400
Subject: [joomla] HTML5Boilerplate and Modernizr.com
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Thanks for jumping in Matt.

I can't wait to see Joomla 3.0 with Twitter Bootstrap. It will be great to
have Joomla with  native HTML5 support.

- - - Steve

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Stephen Britton <sbritton at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks Steve.  A couple of follow-up questions, if I may.
>> "The problem is Joomla 2.5's module chrome only supports XHTML"
>> Is this a reference to the chrome browser or does chrome refer to a
>> joomla-ism?
>>
>> If you do not build or heavily modify Joomla templates, you don't have to
> worry about Module Chrome. If you are not making your own HTML5 Joomla
> templates, please ignore the rest of my answer.
>
> Module Chrome refers to the tags that go around the module placements. For
> example,   the most common module tag is style="xhtml", this puts xhtml
> tags around the module.
>
> But HTML5 is different from XHTML. So if you used the HTML5 overrides from
> Seth's One Web, you would use style="html5" and this would create Module
> Chome that will comply with HTML5 standards (although, even HTML5 standards
> is a open topic these days).
>
>
>> I can sort of see where html5boilerplate may be a problem, but I would
>> have thought modernizr would work because all it does is
>> test browser capabilities and add a bunch of classes to the CSS.  The
>> additional classes make is easy to degrade a drop shadow, for example
>> to a plain border.
>>
>>   "So right now, if you want to develop HTML5 sites with Joomla, you need
>> to work with a third party library. This involves changing a lot of the
>> code in com_content."
>>  "Although, the major template clubs are slowly rolling out HTML5
>> templates, notably JoomlArt and Joomla Bamboo "
>>              If I put these two points together, does that mean if I want
>> to use any of the HTML5 templates from JoomlArt or Bambbo, I have a lot of
>> work to do to change the com_content?
>>              I assume changing the com-content means mucking around with
>> the php code?
>>              What type of third party library would I need to look for?
>>
>
> Sorry about the confusion. Sometimes I make the mistake of assuming that
> everyone knows how Joomla overrides and templates work.
>
> No. You do not have to do any coding. If you make your own templates, you
> can just drag and drop the html5 override code from One Web or Construct
> Framework and drop it into the override directory. The people from One Web
> and Construct have done all the coding for you. They have spent all the
> time rewriting the code in com_content so it will work with HTML5.
>
> One of Joomla's best features is you can override the core Joomla code by
> creating an override folder in the template files. This allows you to
> change the core code without touching the actual core code. This way, you
> are free to experiment and not worry about destroying the Joomla core code.
>
> By far the easiest way to get an HTML5 Joomla template would be to
> purchase one from a commercial company like JoomlArt and Joomla Bamboo.
> Most of these companies use Modernizr or something like it so the templates
> will work in older browsers.
>
> My apologies for making this topic seems harder than it probably is.
>
> All best,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Janet Sullivan
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>> *From:* Stephen Britton <sbritton at gmail.com>
>> *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:35 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] HTML5Boilerplate and Modernizr.com
>>
>> HTML5 Boilerplate and mondernizr are libraries used to create HTML5
>> sites/applications. You would not use these libraries to be used in
>> conjunction a Joomla template, but rather to design and build Joomla
>> templates.
>>
>> The majority of commercial Joomla templates are XHTML. Although, the
>> major template clubs are slowly rolling out HTML5 templates, notably
>> JoomlArt and Joomla Bamboo.
>>
>> The problem is Joomla 2.5's module chrome only supports XHTML. I have
>> been told that they are working on an upcoming release that will support
>> HTML5.  So right now, if you want to develop HTML5 sites with Joomla, you
>> need to work with a third party library. This involves changing a lot of
>> the code in com_content.
>>
>> The two free frameworks that can be used for developing HTML5 Joomla
>> templates are: Matt Thomas' excellent Construct framework
>> http://construct-framework.com/
>>
>> And Seth Warburton's One Web framework. Note that you can also download
>> Seth's HTML5 overrides and use them in your own HTML5 templates as I have
>> done.
>> http://internet-inspired.com/
>>
>> JoomlaBamboo has some nice looking HTML5 templates, although I have not
>> personally checked them out yet.
>> http://www.joomlabamboo.com/joomla-templates/responsive-joomla-templates
>>
>> - - - Steve
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone used the HTML5bolierplate.com or modernizr.com with Joomla
>> templates?
>> Do most commercial templates work with these tools?  or is it hit and
>> miss?  If someone has
>> had good results with a particular template using these tools, please
>> identify the template...
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Janet Sullivan
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stephen Britton
>> Technology Consultant
>> sbritton at gmail.com
>> Twitter: @StephenBritton
>> ph: 914-661-0040
>>
>> "Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." -
>> George Bernard Shaw
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Stephen Britton
> Technology Consultant
> sbritton at gmail.com
> Twitter: @StephenBritton
> ph: 914-661-0040
>
> "Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." -
> George Bernard Shaw
>
>


-- 
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From jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 06:29:39 2012
From: jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com (Janet Sullivan)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 03:29:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
Message-ID: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I am building a joomla site using? Yootheme, based on the Warp framework.

?I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built in so use firebug to 

?to identify? the css changes necessary.

My problem is that I don't know where I should be putting the new CSS code.? I know how to change the various
css files because firebug tells me the filename and the line number for each element that I want to change. I could
easily go into each file and make the changes.? 
However, is that how I should be working?? For example, I am using a free version of the TK Redemption theme.? Suppose later in the
project I need the premium features of that theme and need to upgrade?? If I have made a bunch of random changes to the css, I think
I may have to start all over with the premium theme.? I think there should be a way to isolate my CSS is a separate place to make upgrading
easy.

What is the proper procedure? so I don't make a mess?
Thanks in advance.? And by the way, this forum (and the NYC Users Group) is GREAT.? Thanks to everyone who has helped this novice
jump start with Joomla!

?
Janet Sullivan
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From scott at wolpow.com  Sat May 19 06:44:19 2012
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 06:44:19 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
In-Reply-To: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4FB77983.5050804@wolpow.com>

Your best bet is to add a custom.css file to the template.
Then add it in the index.php
This will solve your issues, but you may have to add the line again in 
the index.php

Scott Wolpow

On 5/19/2012 6:29 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote:
> I am building a joomla site using  Yootheme, based on the Warp framework.
>
> I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built 
> in so use firebug to
>  to identify  the css changes necessary.
>
> My problem is that I don't know where I should be putting the new CSS 
> code.  I know how to change the various
> css files because firebug tells me the filename and the line number 
> for each element that I want to change. I could
> easily go into each file and make the changes.
> However, is that how I should be working?  For example, I am using a 
> free version of the TK Redemption theme.  Suppose later in the
> project I need the premium features of that theme and need to 
> upgrade?  If I have made a bunch of random changes to the css, I think
> I may have to start all over with the premium theme.  I think there 
> should be a way to isolate my CSS is a separate place to make upgrading
> easy.
>
> What is the proper procedure  so I don't make a mess?
> Thanks in advance.  And by the way, this forum (and the NYC Users 
> Group) is GREAT.  Thanks to everyone who has helped this novice
> jump start with Joomla!
> Janet Sullivan
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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From jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 07:04:18 2012
From: jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com (Janet Sullivan)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 04:04:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
In-Reply-To: <4FB77983.5050804@wolpow.com>
References: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77983.5050804@wolpow.com>
Message-ID: <1337425458.1189.YahooMailNeo@web160405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Scott.? I'm not very good with php yet.
which index.php file? I think I've seen several....
? and where to add it so that my css is guaranteed to override the standard template?
?

Janet Sullivan




________________________________
 From: Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com>
To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question
 

Your best bet is to add a custom.css file to the template.
Then add it in the index.php
This will solve your issues, but you may have to add the line again
    in the index.php

Scott Wolpow

On 5/19/2012 6:29 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote: 
I am building a joomla site using? Yootheme, based on the Warp framework.
>
>?I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built in so use firebug to 
>
>?to identify? the css changes necessary.
>
>My problem is that I don't know where I should be putting
            the new CSS code.? I know how to change the various
>css files because firebug tells me the filename and the line
            number for each element that I want to change. I could
>easily go into each file and make the changes.? 
>However, is that how I should be working?? For example, I am
            using a free version of the TK Redemption theme.? Suppose
            later in the
>project I need the premium features of that theme and need
            to upgrade?? If I have made a bunch of random changes to the
            css, I think
>I may have to start all over with the premium theme.? I
            think there should be a way to isolate my CSS is a separate
            place to make upgrading
>easy.
>
>What is the proper procedure? so I don't make a mess?
>Thanks in advance.? And by the way, this forum (and the NYC
          Users Group) is GREAT.? Thanks to everyone who has helped this
          novice
>jump start with Joomla!
>
>?
>Janet Sullivan
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
_______________________________________________
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http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

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From scott at wolpow.com  Sat May 19 07:06:52 2012
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 07:06:52 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
In-Reply-To: <1337425458.1189.YahooMailNeo@web160405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77983.5050804@wolpow.com>
	<1337425458.1189.YahooMailNeo@web160405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4FB77ECC.4040803@wolpow.com>

The one for your template

ie

path-to-site- /template/index.php

the css is

path-to-site- /template/css

Make sure it calls your custom css last.
Look at the index.php file, you will see the other css's listed there.
SW

On 5/19/2012 7:04 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote:
> Thanks Scott.  I'm not very good with php yet.
> which index.php file? I think I've seen several....
>   and where to add it so that my css is guaranteed to override the 
> standard template?
>
> Janet Sullivan
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com>
> *To:* joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:44 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] Workflow question
>
> Your best bet is to add a custom.css file to the template.
> Then add it in the index.php
> This will solve your issues, but you may have to add the line again in 
> the index.php
>
> Scott Wolpow
>
> On 5/19/2012 6:29 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote:
>> I am building a joomla site using  Yootheme, based on the Warp framework.
>>
>> I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built 
>> in so use firebug to
>>  to identify  the css changes necessary.
>>
>> My problem is that I don't know where I should be putting the new CSS 
>> code.  I know how to change the various
>> css files because firebug tells me the filename and the line number 
>> for each element that I want to change. I could
>> easily go into each file and make the changes.
>> However, is that how I should be working?  For example, I am using a 
>> free version of the TK Redemption theme.  Suppose later in the
>> project I need the premium features of that theme and need to 
>> upgrade?  If I have made a bunch of random changes to the css, I think
>> I may have to start all over with the premium theme.  I think there 
>> should be a way to isolate my CSS is a separate place to make upgrading
>> easy.
>>
>> What is the proper procedure  so I don't make a mess?
>> Thanks in advance.  And by the way, this forum (and the NYC Users 
>> Group) is GREAT.  Thanks to everyone who has helped this novice
>> jump start with Joomla!
>> Janet Sullivan
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
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From matt at betweenbrain.com  Sat May 19 11:25:53 2012
From: matt at betweenbrain.com (Matt Thomas)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 11:25:53 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
In-Reply-To: <4FB77ECC.4040803@wolpow.com>
References: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77983.5050804@wolpow.com>
	<1337425458.1189.YahooMailNeo@web160405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77ECC.4040803@wolpow.com>
Message-ID: <CAOXGsbLz25THFwLioBcnWecZLN+cP4GeBVRPAwpWgKF7gS5=4g@mail.gmail.com>

You can also look at https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms#L38 to see how
the core templates add stylesheets.

Have you checked with the folks at Yootheme? They may have a preferred
method that might also persevere this change between upgrades.

Best,

Matt

Sent from my phone that uses an open source operating system.
On May 19, 2012 7:07 AM, "Scott Wolpow" <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:

>  The one for your template
>
> ie
>
> path-to-site- /template/index.php
>
> the css is
>
> path-to-site- /template/css
>
> Make sure it calls your custom css last.
> Look at the index.php file, you will see the other css's listed there.
> SW
>
> On 5/19/2012 7:04 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote:
>
>  Thanks Scott.  I'm not very good with php yet.
> which index.php file? I think I've seen several....
>   and where to add it so that my css is guaranteed to override the
> standard template?
>
>  Janet Sullivan
>
>
>    ------------------------------
> *From:* Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> <scott at wolpow.com>
> *To:* joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:44 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] Workflow question
>
>  Your best bet is to add a custom.css file to the template.
> Then add it in the index.php
> This will solve your issues, but you may have to add the line again in the
> index.php
>
> Scott Wolpow
>
> On 5/19/2012 6:29 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote:
>
>  I am building a joomla site using  Yootheme, based on the Warp framework.
>
>  I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built in
> so use firebug to
>   to identify  the css changes necessary.
>
> My problem is that I don't know where I should be putting the new CSS
> code.  I know how to change the various
> css files because firebug tells me the filename and the line number for
> each element that I want to change. I could
> easily go into each file and make the changes.
> However, is that how I should be working?  For example, I am using a free
> version of the TK Redemption theme.  Suppose later in the
> project I need the premium features of that theme and need to upgrade?  If
> I have made a bunch of random changes to the css, I think
> I may have to start all over with the premium theme.  I think there should
> be a way to isolate my CSS is a separate place to make upgrading
> easy.
>
> What is the proper procedure  so I don't make a mess?
> Thanks in advance.  And by the way, this forum (and the NYC Users Group)
> is GREAT.  Thanks to everyone who has helped this novice
> jump start with Joomla!
>
> Janet Sullivan
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
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>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
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From rytech123 at gmail.com  Sat May 19 12:54:47 2012
From: rytech123 at gmail.com (Laura Gordon)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 12:54:47 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
In-Reply-To: <4FB77ECC.4040803@wolpow.com>
References: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77983.5050804@wolpow.com>
	<1337425458.1189.YahooMailNeo@web160405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77ECC.4040803@wolpow.com>
Message-ID: <CABbkB_e7Y87w+O1YxOtDgiqm1Zr5958RmkTSAmLdS2SJsYhrcw@mail.gmail.com>

Also, some templates (yootheme templates) already have a custom.css file
which you can modify.

In one of my yootheme templates, there is a custom.css, and in the .xml in
the root of the template it refers to the entire css directory so it
automatically includes all of the css files that are naturally there.

In 2.5 (starting in 1.6 i think) in the initial index.php (or whatever base
file the template is using) can now refer to entire directories, so you
don't have to list each file one by one.

Hope this helps.

thanks,
-- Laura

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:06 AM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:

>  The one for your template
>
> ie
>
> path-to-site- /template/index.php
>
> the css is
>
> path-to-site- /template/css
>
> Make sure it calls your custom css last.
> Look at the index.php file, you will see the other css's listed there.
> SW
>
>
> On 5/19/2012 7:04 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote:
>
>  Thanks Scott.  I'm not very good with php yet.
> which index.php file? I think I've seen several....
>   and where to add it so that my css is guaranteed to override the
> standard template?
>
>  Janet Sullivan
>
>
>    ------------------------------
> *From:* Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> <scott at wolpow.com>
> *To:* joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:44 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] Workflow question
>
>  Your best bet is to add a custom.css file to the template.
> Then add it in the index.php
> This will solve your issues, but you may have to add the line again in the
> index.php
>
> Scott Wolpow
>
> On 5/19/2012 6:29 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote:
>
>  I am building a joomla site using  Yootheme, based on the Warp framework.
>
>  I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built in
> so use firebug to
>   to identify  the css changes necessary.
>
> My problem is that I don't know where I should be putting the new CSS
> code.  I know how to change the various
> css files because firebug tells me the filename and the line number for
> each element that I want to change. I could
> easily go into each file and make the changes.
> However, is that how I should be working?  For example, I am using a free
> version of the TK Redemption theme.  Suppose later in the
> project I need the premium features of that theme and need to upgrade?  If
> I have made a bunch of random changes to the css, I think
> I may have to start all over with the premium theme.  I think there should
> be a way to isolate my CSS is a separate place to make upgrading
> easy.
>
> What is the proper procedure  so I don't make a mess?
> Thanks in advance.  And by the way, this forum (and the NYC Users Group)
> is GREAT.  Thanks to everyone who has helped this novice
> jump start with Joomla!
>
> Janet Sullivan
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com  Sun May 20 09:06:39 2012
From: jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com (Janet Sullivan)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 06:06:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
In-Reply-To: <4FB77ECC.4040803@wolpow.com>
References: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77983.5050804@wolpow.com>
	<1337425458.1189.YahooMailNeo@web160405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77ECC.4040803@wolpow.com>
Message-ID: <1337519199.14963.YahooMailNeo@web160405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

?I found this code in a file called?
tk_redemption_free/layouts/template.config.php

And there already is a "custom.css" file there.? Do you think this is where I should add another
$this['asset']->addFile('css', 'css:mycss.css');

And I should add it just before the print.css statement?

What do you think of adding my css overrides to the end of the existing custom.css and then moving that
$this["asset']?? statement down to just before the print statement?? or is that likely to screw up?

Here is the code from the tk_redemption_free/layouts/template.config.php? file:

// load css
$this['asset']->addFile('css', 'css:base.css');
$this['asset']->addFile('css', 'css:layout.css');
$this['asset']->addFile('css', 'css:menus.css');
$this['asset']->addString('css', implode("\n", $css));
$this['asset']->addFile('css', 'css:modules.css');
$this['asset']->addFile('css', 'css:tools.css');
$this['asset']->addFile('css', 'css:system.css');
$this['asset']->addFile('css', 'css:extensions.css');
$this['asset']->addFile('css', 'css:custom.css');
if (($color = $this['config']->get('color1')) && $this['path']->path("css:/color1/$color.css")) { $this['asset']->addFile('css', "css:/color1/$color.css"); }
if (($color = $this['config']->get('color2')) && $this['path']->path("css:/color2/$color.css")) { $this['asset']->addFile('css', "css:/color2/$color.css"); }
if (($font = $this['config']->get('font1')) && $this['path']->path("css:/font1/$font.css")) { $this['asset']->addFile('css', "css:/font1/$font.css"); }
if (($font = $this['config']->get('font2')) && $this['path']->path("css:/font2/$font.css")) { $this['asset']->addFile('css', "css:/font2/$font.css"); }
if (($font = $this['config']->get('font3')) && $this['path']->path("css:/font3/$font.css")) { $this['asset']->addFile('css', "css:/font3/$font.css"); }
$this['asset']->addFile('css', 'css:style.css');
if ($this['config']->get('direction') == 'rtl') $this['asset']->addFile('css', 'css:rtl.css');
$this['asset']->addFile('css', 'css:print.css');

?
Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions.


Janet Sullivan




________________________________
 From: Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com>
To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question
 

The one for your template

ie

path-to-site- /template/index.php

the css is

path-to-site- /template/css

Make sure it calls your custom css last.
Look at the index.php file, you will see the other css's listed
    there.
SW

On 5/19/2012 7:04 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote: 
Thanks Scott.? I'm not very good with php yet.
>which index.php file? I think I've seen several....
>? and where to add it so that my css is guaranteed to override
          the standard template?
>?
>
>Janet Sullivan
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com>
>To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org 
>Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:44 AM
>Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question
> 
>
>Your best bet is to add a custom.css file to the template.
>Then add it in the index.php
>This will solve your issues, but you may have to add the
                line again in the index.php
>
>Scott Wolpow
>
>On 5/19/2012 6:29 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote: 
>I am building a joomla site using? Yootheme, based on the Warp framework.
>>
>>?I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built in so use firebug to 
>>
>>?to identify? the css changes necessary.
>>
>>My problem is that I don't know where I should
                        be putting the new CSS code.? I know how to
                        change the various
>>css files because firebug tells me the filename
                        and the line number for each element that I want
                        to change. I could
>>easily go into each file and make the changes.? 
>>However, is that how I should be working?? For
                        example, I am using a free version of the TK
                        Redemption theme.? Suppose later in the
>>project I need the premium features of that
                        theme and need to upgrade?? If I have made a
                        bunch of random changes to the css, I think
>>I may have to start all over with the premium
                        theme.? I think there should be a way to isolate
                        my CSS is a separate place to make upgrading
>>easy.
>>
>>What is the proper procedure? so I don't make a
                        mess?
>>Thanks in advance.? And by the way, this forum
                      (and the NYC Users Group) is GREAT.? Thanks to
                      everyone who has helped this novice
>>jump start with Joomla!
>>
>>?
>>Janet Sullivan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>_______________________________________________
>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
>Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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From jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com  Sun May 20 09:20:31 2012
From: jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com (Janet Sullivan)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 06:20:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
In-Reply-To: <CAOXGsbLz25THFwLioBcnWecZLN+cP4GeBVRPAwpWgKF7gS5=4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77983.5050804@wolpow.com>
	<1337425458.1189.YahooMailNeo@web160405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77ECC.4040803@wolpow.com>
	<CAOXGsbLz25THFwLioBcnWecZLN+cP4GeBVRPAwpWgKF7gS5=4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1337520031.15022.YahooMailNeo@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Matt:

I'm sitting here laughing because "reading the manual" is something that seldom occurs to me, 

yet is so often the solution.? As in this case, when I read the manual I find that Yoothemes offers 

a premium version of the same theme.

The difference between the free and premium is that the premium version has another style sheet file
called "extra-styles" where you can add customizations, just as I want to do.? So simple.? I'm still mildly
curious as to whether or not modifying the tk_redemption_free/layouts/template.config would have worked.
I think I will try it after I get the real client site going.....
And thanks!
?

?I'm writing it 100 times:? Read the manual, read the manual, read the manual.....

Janet Sullivan




________________________________
 From: Matt Thomas <matt at betweenbrain.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org> 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question
 

You can also look at https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms#L38 to see how the core templates add stylesheets.? 
Have you checked with the folks at Yootheme? They may have a preferred method that might also persevere this change between upgrades.
Best,
Matt
Sent from my phone that uses an open source operating system. 
On May 19, 2012 7:07 AM, "Scott Wolpow" <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:

The one for your template
>
>ie
>
>path-to-site- /template/index.php
>
>the css is
>
>path-to-site- /template/css
>
>Make sure it calls your custom css last.
>Look at the index.php file, you will see the other css's listed
    there.
>SW
>
>On 5/19/2012 7:04 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote: 
>Thanks Scott.? I'm not very good with php yet.
>>which index.php file? I think I've seen several....
>>? and where to add it so that my css is guaranteed to override
          the standard template?
>>?
>>
>>Janet Sullivan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com>
>>To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org 
>>Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:44 AM
>>Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question
>> 
>>
>>Your best bet is to add a custom.css file to the template.
>>Then add it in the index.php
>>This will solve your issues, but you may have to add the
                line again in the index.php
>>
>>Scott Wolpow
>>
>>On 5/19/2012 6:29 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote: 
>>I am building a joomla site using? Yootheme, based on the Warp framework.
>>>
>>>?I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built in so use firebug to 
>>>
>>>?to identify? the css changes necessary.
>>>
>>>My problem is that I don't know where I should
                        be putting the new CSS code.? I know how to
                        change the various
>>>css files because firebug tells me the filename
                        and the line number for each element that I want
                        to change. I could
>>>easily go into each file and make the changes.? 
>>>However, is that how I should be working?? For
                        example, I am using a free version of the TK
                        Redemption theme.? Suppose later in the
>>>project I need the premium features of that
                        theme and need to upgrade?? If I have made a
                        bunch of random changes to the css, I think
>>>I may have to start all over with the premium
                        theme.? I think there should be a way to isolate
                        my CSS is a separate place to make upgrading
>>>easy.
>>>
>>>What is the proper procedure? so I don't make a
                        mess?
>>>Thanks in advance.? And by the way, this forum
                      (and the NYC Users Group) is GREAT.? Thanks to
                      everyone who has helped this novice
>>>jump start with Joomla!
>>>
>>>?
>>>Janet Sullivan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>_______________________________________________
>>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>>http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>>Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>_______________________________________________
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>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Tue May 22 07:48:51 2012
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 08:48:51 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
In-Reply-To: <1337520031.15022.YahooMailNeo@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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	<CAOXGsbLz25THFwLioBcnWecZLN+cP4GeBVRPAwpWgKF7gS5=4g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1337520031.15022.YahooMailNeo@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Hi Janet!

*index.php* should be under your folder *templates/tk_redemption_free*

On the header are you should find a line like this:

<link rel="stylesheet" href="/templates/*tk_redemption_free*/css/custom.css"
type="text/css" />

If it's not there, you can create it.

The *custom.css* file should be under *templates/tk_redemption_free/css*

If it's not there, you can also create it.

G'luck!

-- 
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From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Wed May 23 04:27:50 2012
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 04:27:50 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Admin template for non-technical users?
Message-ID: <CAN7=Vv_rt=QmQ0sCRxBifZ91HcyGaSEya=svmv2DV+m+2VQWiQ@mail.gmail.com>

I've never bothered with any other template for Admin than what is supplied
with Joomla. But I want to be able to have a non-technical user be able to
edit the content for a category of Articles assigned to them, but don't
want anything else visible to them so they don't become confused or start
to mess around with things which could screw up the pages. Before anyone
tells me that the user should go through training and learn how to manage
things so this doesn't happen, while I would agree, that isn't the case
this time.

Does such an admin template already exist? Or can Joomla 2.5.4 be made
restrictive enough so when this non-technical user logins in they only see
what they need to? Thanks!

David Roth
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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Wed May 23 06:40:22 2012
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 07:40:22 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Admin template for non-technical users?
In-Reply-To: <CAN7=Vv_rt=QmQ0sCRxBifZ91HcyGaSEya=svmv2DV+m+2VQWiQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN7=Vv_rt=QmQ0sCRxBifZ91HcyGaSEya=svmv2DV+m+2VQWiQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHM6=ODeFwv1AvHweVBQFwyrKOpOz0N64wqqxUVz695PMt5ZqA@mail.gmail.com>

You can use Joomla 2.5.x ACL to acomplish that. A little bit tricky, but I
believe it can be done.

G'luck!

2012/5/23 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com>

> I've never bothered with any other template for Admin than what is
> supplied with Joomla. But I want to be able to have a non-technical user be
> able to edit the content for a category of Articles assigned to them, but
> don't want anything else visible to them so they don't become confused or
> start to mess around with things which could screw up the pages. Before
> anyone tells me that the user should go through training and learn how to
> manage things so this doesn't happen, while I would agree, that isn't the
> case this time.
>
> Does such an admin template already exist? Or can Joomla 2.5.4 be made
> restrictive enough so when this non-technical user logins in they only see
> what they need to? Thanks!
>
> David Roth
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
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From info at ostraining.com  Wed May 23 06:58:21 2012
From: info at ostraining.com (OSTraining)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 06:58:21 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Admin template for non-technical users?
In-Reply-To: <CAHM6=ODeFwv1AvHweVBQFwyrKOpOz0N64wqqxUVz695PMt5ZqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN7=Vv_rt=QmQ0sCRxBifZ91HcyGaSEya=svmv2DV+m+2VQWiQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHM6=ODeFwv1AvHweVBQFwyrKOpOz0N64wqqxUVz695PMt5ZqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3FF70596EC42493295D2098CEC571854@ostraining.com>

Hi David

Give this a try:
http://www.ostraining.com/blog/joomla/joomla-acl-tutorial-for-allowing-one-person-to-modify-only-one-category/

That was written a while ago and there's an extra permission now.

You'll also need to go to Site > Global Configuration > Permissions and give the new user group permission to "Access Administration Interface"

Steve  


On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:

> You can use Joomla 2.5.x ACL to acomplish that. A little bit tricky, but I believe it can be done.
>  
> G'luck!
>  
> 2012/5/23 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com (mailto:davidalanroth at gmail.com)>
> > I've never bothered with any other template for Admin than what is supplied with Joomla. But I want to be able to have a non-technical user be able to edit the content for a category of Articles assigned to them, but don't want anything else visible to them so they don't become confused or start to mess around with things which could screw up the pages. Before anyone tells me that the user should go through training and learn how to manage things so this doesn't happen, while I would agree, that isn't the case this time.
> >  
> > Does such an admin template already exist? Or can Joomla 2.5.4 be made restrictive enough so when this non-technical user logins in they only see what they need to? Thanks!
> >  
> > David Roth  
> >  
> >  
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> >  
> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >  
> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>  
>  
>  
>  
> --  
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com (mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com)
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>  
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>  
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>  
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php





From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Wed May 23 07:26:56 2012
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 08:26:56 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Admin template for non-technical users?
In-Reply-To: <3FF70596EC42493295D2098CEC571854@ostraining.com>
References: <CAN7=Vv_rt=QmQ0sCRxBifZ91HcyGaSEya=svmv2DV+m+2VQWiQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHM6=ODeFwv1AvHweVBQFwyrKOpOz0N64wqqxUVz695PMt5ZqA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3FF70596EC42493295D2098CEC571854@ostraining.com>
Message-ID: <CAHM6=ODiCg=e-mpG-LjYLyf_aBZhPmYeRbZRT=Xnb0ORQ0MUmw@mail.gmail.com>

I found this from Jen Kramer (She's GREAT!) in Joomla Magazine. It can be a
kickstart.

http://magazine.joomla.org/issues/Issue-May-2012/item/761-Joomla-ACL-Configuring-back-end

2012/5/23 OSTraining <info at ostraining.com>

> Hi David
>
> Give this a try:
>
> http://www.ostraining.com/blog/joomla/joomla-acl-tutorial-for-allowing-one-person-to-modify-only-one-category/
>
> That was written a while ago and there's an extra permission now.
>
> You'll also need to go to Site > Global Configuration > Permissions and
> give the new user group permission to "Access Administration Interface"
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>
> > You can use Joomla 2.5.x ACL to acomplish that. A little bit tricky, but
> I believe it can be done.
> >
> > G'luck!
> >
> > 2012/5/23 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com (mailto:
> davidalanroth at gmail.com)>
> > > I've never bothered with any other template for Admin than what is
> supplied with Joomla. But I want to be able to have a non-technical user be
> able to edit the content for a category of Articles assigned to them, but
> don't want anything else visible to them so they don't become confused or
> start to mess around with things which could screw up the pages. Before
> anyone tells me that the user should go through training and learn how to
> manage things so this doesn't happen, while I would agree, that isn't the
> case this time.
> > >
> > > Does such an admin template already exist? Or can Joomla 2.5.4 be made
> restrictive enough so when this non-technical user logins in they only see
> what they need to? Thanks!
> > >
> > > David Roth
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> > >
> > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> > >
> > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com (mailto:
> helvecio.rj at gmail.com)
> > http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> >
> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >
> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>



-- 
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From matt at betweenbrain.com  Wed May 23 07:46:42 2012
From: matt at betweenbrain.com (Matt Thomas)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 07:46:42 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
In-Reply-To: <1337520031.15022.YahooMailNeo@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77983.5050804@wolpow.com>
	<1337425458.1189.YahooMailNeo@web160405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77ECC.4040803@wolpow.com>
	<CAOXGsbLz25THFwLioBcnWecZLN+cP4GeBVRPAwpWgKF7gS5=4g@mail.gmail.com>
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Janet,

That's great to hear. I'm in the same boat as you; reading the manual is
not the first thought that occurs to me either (with the exception
of anything by Nicholas at Akeeba as his documentation is phenomenal).

The reason I mention it is that preserving modifications to a file, like
adding a style sheet to your template's index.php, is not something that
Joomla handles well between upgrades. Typically, any modifications, to
files that you install, get lost. We each seem to address in our own
particular way, so each framework might have a special feature for this.

In any case, I'm glad that you worked it out.

Best,

Matt Thomas
Founder betweenbrain <http://betweenbrain.com/>?
Lead Developer Construct Template Development
Framework<http://construct-framework.com/>
Phone: 203.632.9322
Twitter: @betweenbrain
Github: https://github.com/betweenbrain



On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Matt:
>
> I'm sitting here laughing because "reading the manual" is something that
> seldom occurs to me,
> yet is so often the solution.  As in this case, when I read the manual I
> find that Yoothemes offers
> a premium version of the same theme.
>
> The difference between the free and premium is that the premium version
> has another style sheet file
> called "extra-styles" where you can add customizations, just as I want to
> do.  So simple.  I'm still mildly
> curious as to whether or not modifying the
> tk_redemption_free/layouts/template.config would have worked.
> I think I will try it after I get the real client site going.....
> And thanks!
>
>  I'm writing it 100 times:  Read the manual, read the manual, read the
> manual.....
> Janet Sullivan
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Matt Thomas <matt at betweenbrain.com>
> *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:25 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] Workflow question
>
> You can also look at https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms#L38 to see how
> the core templates add stylesheets.
> Have you checked with the folks at Yootheme? They may have a preferred
> method that might also persevere this change between upgrades.
> Best,
> Matt
> Sent from my phone that uses an open source operating system.
> On May 19, 2012 7:07 AM, "Scott Wolpow" <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:
>
>  The one for your template
>
> ie
>
> path-to-site- /template/index.php
>
> the css is
>
> path-to-site- /template/css
>
> Make sure it calls your custom css last.
> Look at the index.php file, you will see the other css's listed there.
> SW
>
> On 5/19/2012 7:04 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote:
>
>  Thanks Scott.  I'm not very good with php yet.
> which index.php file? I think I've seen several....
>   and where to add it so that my css is guaranteed to override the
> standard template?
>
>  Janet Sullivan
>
>
>    ------------------------------
> *From:* Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> <scott at wolpow.com>
> *To:* joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:44 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] Workflow question
>
>  Your best bet is to add a custom.css file to the template.
> Then add it in the index.php
> This will solve your issues, but you may have to add the line again in the
> index.php
>
> Scott Wolpow
>
> On 5/19/2012 6:29 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote:
>
>  I am building a joomla site using  Yootheme, based on the Warp framework.
>
>  I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built in
> so use firebug to
>   to identify  the css changes necessary.
>
> My problem is that I don't know where I should be putting the new CSS
> code.  I know how to change the various
> css files because firebug tells me the filename and the line number for
> each element that I want to change. I could
> easily go into each file and make the changes.
> However, is that how I should be working?  For example, I am using a free
> version of the TK Redemption theme.  Suppose later in the
> project I need the premium features of that theme and need to upgrade?  If
> I have made a bunch of random changes to the css, I think
> I may have to start all over with the premium theme.  I think there should
> be a way to isolate my CSS is a separate place to make upgrading
> easy.
>
> What is the proper procedure  so I don't make a mess?
> Thanks in advance.  And by the way, this forum (and the NYC Users Group)
> is GREAT.  Thanks to everyone who has helped this novice
> jump start with Joomla!
>
> Janet Sullivan
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
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From bill.crews at gmail.com  Wed May 23 08:07:25 2012
From: bill.crews at gmail.com (Bill Crews)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 08:07:25 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
In-Reply-To: <CAOXGsbLP7j7Y7GkFFUUk7+nx7epnZnGnno0Jc9=RvC1_aAQjrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77983.5050804@wolpow.com>
	<1337425458.1189.YahooMailNeo@web160405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77ECC.4040803@wolpow.com>
	<CAOXGsbLz25THFwLioBcnWecZLN+cP4GeBVRPAwpWgKF7gS5=4g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1337520031.15022.YahooMailNeo@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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... and told us about it.  Thanks!

*-bc*


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Matt Thomas <matt at betweenbrain.com> wrote:

> Janet,
>
> That's great to hear. I'm in the same boat as you; reading the manual is
> not the first thought that occurs to me either (with the exception
> of anything by Nicholas at Akeeba as his documentation is phenomenal).
>
> The reason I mention it is that preserving modifications to a file, like
> adding a style sheet to your template's index.php, is not something that
> Joomla handles well between upgrades. Typically, any modifications, to
> files that you install, get lost. We each seem to address in our own
> particular way, so each framework might have a special feature for this.
>
> In any case, I'm glad that you worked it out.
>
> Best,
>
> Matt Thomas
> Founder betweenbrain <http://betweenbrain.com/>?
> Lead Developer Construct Template Development Framework<http://construct-framework.com/>
> Phone: 203.632.9322
> Twitter: @betweenbrain
> Github: https://github.com/betweenbrain
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Matt:
>>
>> I'm sitting here laughing because "reading the manual" is something that
>> seldom occurs to me,
>> yet is so often the solution.  As in this case, when I read the manual I
>> find that Yoothemes offers
>> a premium version of the same theme.
>>
>> The difference between the free and premium is that the premium version
>> has another style sheet file
>> called "extra-styles" where you can add customizations, just as I want to
>> do.  So simple.  I'm still mildly
>> curious as to whether or not modifying the
>> tk_redemption_free/layouts/template.config would have worked.
>> I think I will try it after I get the real client site going.....
>> And thanks!
>>
>>  I'm writing it 100 times:  Read the manual, read the manual, read the
>> manual.....
>> Janet Sullivan
>>
>>
>>    ------------------------------
>> *From:* Matt Thomas <matt at betweenbrain.com>
>> *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:25 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] Workflow question
>>
>> You can also look at https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms#L38 to see how
>> the core templates add stylesheets.
>> Have you checked with the folks at Yootheme? They may have a preferred
>> method that might also persevere this change between upgrades.
>> Best,
>> Matt
>> Sent from my phone that uses an open source operating system.
>> On May 19, 2012 7:07 AM, "Scott Wolpow" <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:
>>
>>  The one for your template
>>
>> ie
>>
>> path-to-site- /template/index.php
>>
>> the css is
>>
>> path-to-site- /template/css
>>
>> Make sure it calls your custom css last.
>> Look at the index.php file, you will see the other css's listed there.
>> SW
>>
>> On 5/19/2012 7:04 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks Scott.  I'm not very good with php yet.
>> which index.php file? I think I've seen several....
>>   and where to add it so that my css is guaranteed to override the
>> standard template?
>>
>>  Janet Sullivan
>>
>>
>>    ------------------------------
>> *From:* Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> <scott at wolpow.com>
>> *To:* joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:44 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] Workflow question
>>
>>  Your best bet is to add a custom.css file to the template.
>> Then add it in the index.php
>> This will solve your issues, but you may have to add the line again in
>> the index.php
>>
>> Scott Wolpow
>>
>> On 5/19/2012 6:29 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote:
>>
>>  I am building a joomla site using  Yootheme, based on the Warp
>> framework.
>>
>>  I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built in
>> so use firebug to
>>   to identify  the css changes necessary.
>>
>> My problem is that I don't know where I should be putting the new CSS
>> code.  I know how to change the various
>> css files because firebug tells me the filename and the line number for
>> each element that I want to change. I could
>> easily go into each file and make the changes.
>> However, is that how I should be working?  For example, I am using a free
>> version of the TK Redemption theme.  Suppose later in the
>> project I need the premium features of that theme and need to upgrade?
>> If I have made a bunch of random changes to the css, I think
>> I may have to start all over with the premium theme.  I think there
>> should be a way to isolate my CSS is a separate place to make upgrading
>> easy.
>>
>> What is the proper procedure  so I don't make a mess?
>> Thanks in advance.  And by the way, this forum (and the NYC Users Group)
>> is GREAT.  Thanks to everyone who has helped this novice
>> jump start with Joomla!
>>
>> Janet Sullivan
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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From: rakics at gmail.com (Sasa Rakic - Gmail)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 14:22:16 +0200
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
In-Reply-To: <CAORXpsTAE8vtk+DSquU1u9FcSyKwHCV4M1QFSmKfYGd6fQj6cw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>	<4FB77983.5050804@wolpow.com>	<1337425458.1189.YahooMailNeo@web160405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>	<4FB77ECC.4040803@wolpow.com>	<CAOXGsbLz25THFwLioBcnWecZLN+cP4GeBVRPAwpWgKF7gS5=4g@mail.gmail.com>	<1337520031.15022.YahooMailNeo@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>	<CAOXGsbLP7j7Y7GkFFUUk7+nx7epnZnGnno0Jc9=RvC1_aAQjrw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <02de01cd38de$b1cab740$156025c0$@gmail.com>

 

Life is normal thing without 1000 times good bye.

 

From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Bill Crews
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:07 PM
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla
Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question

 

... and told us about it.  Thanks!

 

-bc

 

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Matt Thomas <matt at betweenbrain.com> wrote:

Janet,

 

That's great to hear. I'm in the same boat as you; reading the manual is not the first thought that occurs to me either (with the exception of anything by Nicholas at Akeeba as his documentation is phenomenal). 

 

The reason I mention it is that preserving modifications to a file, like adding a style sheet to your template's index.php, is not something that Joomla handles well between upgrades. Typically, any modifications, to files that you install, get lost. We each seem to address in our own particular way, so each framework might have a special feature for this.

 

In any case, I'm glad that you worked it out.


Best,

Matt Thomas

Founder betweenbrain <http://betweenbrain.com/> ?

Lead Developer Construct Template Development Framework <http://construct-framework.com/> 

Phone: 203.632.9322
Twitter: @betweenbrain

Github: https://github.com/betweenbrain





On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Matt:

 

I'm sitting here laughing because "reading the manual" is something that seldom occurs to me, 

yet is so often the solution.  As in this case, when I read the manual I find that Yoothemes offers 

a premium version of the same theme.

 

The difference between the free and premium is that the premium version has another style sheet file

called "extra-styles" where you can add customizations, just as I want to do.  So simple.  I'm still mildly

curious as to whether or not modifying the tk_redemption_free/layouts/template.config would have worked.

I think I will try it after I get the real client site going.....

And thanks!
 

 I'm writing it 100 times:  Read the manual, read the manual, read the manual.....

Janet Sullivan



  _____  

From: Matt Thomas <matt at betweenbrain.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org> 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:25 AM


Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question

 

You can also look at https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms#L38 to see how the core templates add stylesheets.  

Have you checked with the folks at Yootheme? They may have a preferred method that might also persevere this change between upgrades.

Best,

Matt

Sent from my phone that uses an open source operating system. 

On May 19, 2012 7:07 AM, "Scott Wolpow" <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:

The one for your template

ie

path-to-site- /template/index.php

the css is

path-to-site- /template/css

Make sure it calls your custom css last.
Look at the index.php file, you will see the other css's listed there.
SW

On 5/19/2012 7:04 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote: 

Thanks Scott.  I'm not very good with php yet.
which index.php file? I think I've seen several....
  and where to add it so that my css is guaranteed to override the standard template?
 

Janet Sullivan



  _____  

From: Scott Wolpow  <mailto:scott at wolpow.com> <scott at wolpow.com>
To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question

 

Your best bet is to add a custom.css file to the template.
Then add it in the index.php
This will solve your issues, but you may have to add the line again in the index.php

Scott Wolpow

On 5/19/2012 6:29 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote: 

I am building a joomla site using  Yootheme, based on the Warp framework.

 I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built in so use firebug to 

 to identify  the css changes necessary.

My problem is that I don't know where I should be putting the new CSS code.  I know how to change the various
css files because firebug tells me the filename and the line number for each element that I want to change. I could
easily go into each file and make the changes.  
However, is that how I should be working?  For example, I am using a free version of the TK Redemption theme.  Suppose later in the
project I need the premium features of that theme and need to upgrade?  If I have made a bunch of random changes to the css, I think
I may have to start all over with the premium theme.  I think there should be a way to isolate my CSS is a separate place to make upgrading
easy.

What is the proper procedure  so I don't make a mess?
Thanks in advance.  And by the way, this forum (and the NYC Users Group) is GREAT.  Thanks to everyone who has helped this novice
jump start with Joomla!

 

Janet Sullivan

 

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http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php


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From jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com  Wed May 23 16:38:45 2012
From: jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com (Janet Sullivan)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Workflow question
In-Reply-To: <CAOXGsbLP7j7Y7GkFFUUk7+nx7epnZnGnno0Jc9=RvC1_aAQjrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1337423379.15155.YahooMailNeo@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77983.5050804@wolpow.com>
	<1337425458.1189.YahooMailNeo@web160405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<4FB77ECC.4040803@wolpow.com>
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Message-ID: <1337805525.92082.YahooMailNeo@web160404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hi Matt:

Its actually working and I guess it will be preserved across upgrades, but elegant it's not!
Instead of putting all my overrides in a single css file, I have to put them in one of about 8 files.
Kinda clunky when I compare to how the wordpress templates that I have used would have
handled it....
But it works....
I'm still more than mildly curious as to how I could have used your constructs framework instead, but
with tight deadlines, I got the path of least resistance. " In my spare time" I'll crack open framework and see
how it works.??


Janet Sullivan



________________________________
 From: Matt Thomas <matt at betweenbrain.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question
 

Janet,

That's great to hear. I'm in the same boat as you; reading the manual is not the first thought that occurs to me either (with the exception of?anything?by Nicholas at Akeeba as his?documentation?is?phenomenal).?

The reason I mention it is that preserving modifications to a file, like adding a style sheet to your template's index.php, is not something that Joomla handles well between upgrades. Typically, any modifications, to files that you install, get lost.?We each seem to address in our own particular way, so each framework might have a special feature for this.

In any case, I'm glad that you worked it out.

Best,

Matt Thomas
Founder?betweenbrain?
Lead Developer?Construct Template Development Framework
Phone: 203.632.9322
Twitter: @betweenbrain

Github:?https://github.com/betweenbrain



On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Matt:
>
>
>I'm sitting here laughing because "reading the manual" is something that seldom occurs to me, 
>
>yet is so often the solution.? As in this case, when I read the manual I find that Yoothemes offers 
>
>a premium version of the same theme.
>
>
>The difference between the free and premium is that the premium version has another style sheet file
>called "extra-styles" where you can add customizations, just as I want to do.? So simple.? I'm still mildly
>curious as to whether or not modifying the tk_redemption_free/layouts/template.config would have worked.
>I think I will try it after I get the real client site going.....
>And thanks!
>?
>
>?I'm writing it 100 times:? Read the manual, read the manual, read the manual.....
>
>Janet Sullivan
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Matt Thomas <matt at betweenbrain.com>
>To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org> 
>Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:25 AM
>
>Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question
> 
>
>
>You can also look at https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms#L38 to see how the core templates add stylesheets.? 
>Have you checked with the folks at Yootheme? They may have a preferred method that might also persevere this change between upgrades.
>Best,
>Matt
>Sent from my phone that uses an open source operating system. 
>On May 19, 2012 7:07 AM, "Scott Wolpow" <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:
>
>The one for your template
>>
>>ie
>>
>>path-to-site- /template/index.php
>>
>>the css is
>>
>>path-to-site- /template/css
>>
>>Make sure it calls your custom css last.
>>Look at the index.php file, you will see the other css's listed
    there.
>>SW
>>
>>On 5/19/2012 7:04 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote: 
>>Thanks Scott.? I'm not very good with php yet.
>>>which index.php file? I think I've seen several....
>>>? and where to add it so that my css is guaranteed to override
          the standard template?
>>>?
>>>
>>>Janet Sullivan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com>
>>>To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org 
>>>Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:44 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [joomla] Workflow question
>>> 
>>>
>>>Your best bet is to add a custom.css file to the template.
>>>Then add it in the index.php
>>>This will solve your issues, but you may have to add the
                line again in the index.php
>>>
>>>Scott Wolpow
>>>
>>>On 5/19/2012 6:29 AM, Janet Sullivan wrote: 
>>>I am building a joomla site using? Yootheme, based on the Warp framework.
>>>>
>>>>?I can't limit my changes to only what the framework/ theme has built in so use firebug to 
>>>>
>>>>?to identify? the css changes necessary.
>>>>
>>>>My problem is that I don't know where I should
                        be putting the new CSS code.? I know how to
                        change the various
>>>>css files because firebug tells me the filename
                        and the line number for each element that I want
                        to change. I could
>>>>easily go into each file and make the changes.? 
>>>>However, is that how I should be working?? For
                        example, I am using a free version of the TK
                        Redemption theme.? Suppose later in the
>>>>project I need the premium features of that
                        theme and need to upgrade?? If I have made a
                        bunch of random changes to the css, I think
>>>>I may have to start all over with the premium
                        theme.? I think there should be a way to isolate
                        my CSS is a separate place to make upgrading
>>>>easy.
>>>>
>>>>What is the proper procedure? so I don't make a
                        mess?
>>>>Thanks in advance.? And by the way, this forum
                      (and the NYC Users Group) is GREAT.? Thanks to
                      everyone who has helped this novice
>>>>jump start with Joomla!
>>>>
>>>>?
>>>>Janet Sullivan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
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>
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>
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From sbritton at gmail.com  Thu May 24 15:54:51 2012
From: sbritton at gmail.com (Stephen Britton)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 15:54:51 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Joomla 3.0
Message-ID: <CABcNofO8oFfy4mtM1Xvrt_AKTgRZxhFQfOiyrUf4-XRV=TEdtg@mail.gmail.com>

If you have some time, check out Kyle Ledbetter's Joomla 3.0 presentation
that he gave at last weeks' "J and Beyond" conference.

http://www.slideshare.net/pixelpraise/joomla-30-ux-jab-2012

Lots of things to be happy about. (That is, if everything in this
presentation finds its way into Joomla 3.0)

As Matt Thomas told us earlier this month, Joomla is going to use the
Twitter Bootstrap framework. This is great because a lot of developers and
companies are already using Bootstrap. Now that it will be shipping with
Joomla, they will more likely consider Joomla because they are already
using Bootstrap. (FYI: Bootstrap is a responsive CSS/HTML/jQuery framework
developed by the UI folks at Twitter. It was originally developed for use
with Twitter's in-house projects, and they decided to share it with the
world.
http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ )

Another great development is Joomla 3.0 is going to be jQuery friendly.
This is fantastic because Joomla's current javascript library, MooTools is
not well supported and used as jQuery. There are far more jQuery
developers, plus jQuery has better backward compatibility than MooTools. I
am sure that MooTools will continue to ship with Joomla, but only used in
the back end.

Improved admin back end design. Let's face it, Joomla's current and
previous back-ends are not nearly as pretty and user-friendly as the one
that ships with WordPress, but Kyle has done an amazing job cleaning it up
and making it more user friendly. I have been told by more than one user
that Joomla's back-end can be intimidating. I was impressed by the new
back-end design in Kyle's slides.

Kyle has also done an amazing job designing the Joomla responsive (mobile)
template which is based on Bootstrap.

We are very lucky to have Kyle working on Joomla. I have been using his
AdminPraise and ProjectFork templates for years and it is great that he is
using his amazing talents to improve Joomla core. I met Kyle and his wife
at Joomla Day NYC 2011. He is super friendly and he loved his first trip to
NYC.

Hopefully, we can bring him back this year.

All best,

Steve

-- 
Stephen Britton
Technology Consultant
sbritton at gmail.com
Twitter: @StephenBritton
ph: 914-661-0040

"Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." -
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From sbritton at gmail.com  Thu May 24 16:45:24 2012
From: sbritton at gmail.com (Stephen Britton)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 16:45:24 -0400
Subject: [joomla] A lesson for those weak in PHP/MySQL but strong in HTML/CSS
Message-ID: <CABcNofNtpqgrqss+H714Ub7L19FWHxT7rdgdOxQ7B-ez6D0V7g@mail.gmail.com>

Joomla core developer Andrea Tarr shows HTML/CSS folks how PHP works in her
presentation slides from "J and Beyond".

http://www.slideshare.net/andytarr/php-for-html-gurus-j-and-beyond-2012

It's based on her PHP/MySQL book. She was also a presenter at Joomla Day
NYC 2011, that I am hoping we can invite back this year.

-- 
Stephen Britton
Technology Consultant
sbritton at gmail.com
Twitter: @StephenBritton
ph: 914-661-0040

"Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." -
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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Sat May 26 12:22:30 2012
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:22:30 -0300
Subject: [joomla] When?
Message-ID: <CAHM6=OCWDmtw=PSVSPeJDMV6g8Jy35Dq7hHWCOj1uzhrco+YOg@mail.gmail.com>

BTW, any news on the dates of JDay NY 2012?

-- 
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From webhomebase at comcast.net  Sat May 26 12:35:05 2012
From: webhomebase at comcast.net (Tom Flis)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 12:35:05 -0400
Subject: [joomla] When?
In-Reply-To: <CAHM6=OCWDmtw=PSVSPeJDMV6g8Jy35Dq7hHWCOj1uzhrco+YOg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHM6=OCWDmtw=PSVSPeJDMV6g8Jy35Dq7hHWCOj1uzhrco+YOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FC10639.1090004@comcast.net>

http://events.joomla.org/joomla-days/21-joomla-days/264-joomla-day-nyc-weekend-2012.html

shows the dates to be Sept. 22 (Saturday) and Sept. 24 (Monday) but the 
website link points to last year's event.

Tom Flis
webhomebase at comcast.net


On 5/26/2012 12:22 PM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
> BTW, any news on the dates of JDay NY 2012?
>
> -- 
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com 
> <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From scott at wolpow.com  Sat May 26 12:42:15 2012
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 12:42:15 -0400
Subject: [joomla] When?
In-Reply-To: <CAHM6=OCWDmtw=PSVSPeJDMV6g8Jy35Dq7hHWCOj1uzhrco+YOg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHM6=OCWDmtw=PSVSPeJDMV6g8Jy35Dq7hHWCOj1uzhrco+YOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FC107E7.10000@wolpow.com>

Yes September 22nd and 23rd.
Site will go live next week.

SW

On 5/26/2012 12:22 PM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
> BTW, any news on the dates of JDay NY 2012?
>
> -- 
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com 
> <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Sat May 26 13:23:52 2012
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 14:23:52 -0300
Subject: [joomla] When?
In-Reply-To: <4FC107E7.10000@wolpow.com>
References: <CAHM6=OCWDmtw=PSVSPeJDMV6g8Jy35Dq7hHWCOj1uzhrco+YOg@mail.gmail.com>
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Confirmed?

YEAY!

2012/5/26 Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com>

>  Yes September 22nd and 23rd.
> Site will go live next week.
>
> SW
>
>
> On 5/26/2012 12:22 PM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>
> BTW, any news on the dates of JDay NY 2012?
>
> --
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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>
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>
>
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From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Tue May 29 06:18:42 2012
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 06:18:42 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Admin template for non-technical users?
In-Reply-To: <CAHM6=ODiCg=e-mpG-LjYLyf_aBZhPmYeRbZRT=Xnb0ORQ0MUmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN7=Vv_rt=QmQ0sCRxBifZ91HcyGaSEya=svmv2DV+m+2VQWiQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHM6=ODeFwv1AvHweVBQFwyrKOpOz0N64wqqxUVz695PMt5ZqA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAN7=Vv8xEUbdr9UgYqL96X=jaBSObRTYZs2mhUHNhxgh0uzGSw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to both of you! Those articles were very helpful. I had not gotten a
chance to check out the ACL feature in Joomla until now.

I was wondering while reading it, is there a way to replace the "help" tab
so it links to custom documentation for the user instead of the Joomla
documentation and links? Thanks!

David Roth


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>wrote:

> I found this from Jen Kramer (She's GREAT!) in Joomla Magazine. It can be
> a kickstart.
>
>
> http://magazine.joomla.org/issues/Issue-May-2012/item/761-Joomla-ACL-Configuring-back-end
>
> 2012/5/23 OSTraining <info at ostraining.com>
>
>> Hi David
>>
>> Give this a try:
>>
>> http://www.ostraining.com/blog/joomla/joomla-acl-tutorial-for-allowing-one-person-to-modify-only-one-category/
>>
>> That was written a while ago and there's an extra permission now.
>>
>> You'll also need to go to Site > Global Configuration > Permissions and
>> give the new user group permission to "Access Administration Interface"
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>>
>> > You can use Joomla 2.5.x ACL to acomplish that. A little bit tricky,
>> but I believe it can be done.
>> >
>> > G'luck!
>> >
>> > 2012/5/23 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com (mailto:
>> davidalanroth at gmail.com)>
>> > > I've never bothered with any other template for Admin than what is
>> supplied with Joomla. But I want to be able to have a non-technical user be
>> able to edit the content for a category of Articles assigned to them, but
>> don't want anything else visible to them so they don't become confused or
>> start to mess around with things which could screw up the pages. Before
>> anyone tells me that the user should go through training and learn how to
>> manage things so this doesn't happen, while I would agree, that isn't the
>> case this time.
>> > >
>> > > Does such an admin template already exist? Or can Joomla 2.5.4 be
>> made restrictive enough so when this non-technical user logins in they only
>> see what they need to? Thanks!
>> > >
>> > > David Roth
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>> > >
>> > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> > > http://www.nyphpcon.com
>> > >
>> > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
>> > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com (mailto:
>> helvecio.rj at gmail.com)
>> > http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>>
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From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:19:35 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Admin template for non-technical users?
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	<CAN7=Vv8xEUbdr9UgYqL96X=jaBSObRTYZs2mhUHNhxgh0uzGSw@mail.gmail.com>
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Is this is what you are looking for?

http://magazine.joomla.org/issues/Issue-Apr-2012/item/721-Customizing-the-Admin-Menu

2012/5/29 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com>

> Thanks to both of you! Those articles were very helpful. I had not gotten
> a chance to check out the ACL feature in Joomla until now.
>
> I was wondering while reading it, is there a way to replace the "help" tab
> so it links to custom documentation for the user instead of the Joomla
> documentation and links? Thanks!
>
> David Roth
>
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I found this from Jen Kramer (She's GREAT!) in Joomla Magazine. It can be
>> a kickstart.
>>
>>
>> http://magazine.joomla.org/issues/Issue-May-2012/item/761-Joomla-ACL-Configuring-back-end
>>
>> 2012/5/23 OSTraining <info at ostraining.com>
>>
>>> Hi David
>>>
>>> Give this a try:
>>>
>>> http://www.ostraining.com/blog/joomla/joomla-acl-tutorial-for-allowing-one-person-to-modify-only-one-category/
>>>
>>> That was written a while ago and there's an extra permission now.
>>>
>>> You'll also need to go to Site > Global Configuration > Permissions and
>>> give the new user group permission to "Access Administration Interface"
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>>>
>>> > You can use Joomla 2.5.x ACL to acomplish that. A little bit tricky,
>>> but I believe it can be done.
>>> >
>>> > G'luck!
>>> >
>>> > 2012/5/23 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com (mailto:
>>> davidalanroth at gmail.com)>
>>> > > I've never bothered with any other template for Admin than what is
>>> supplied with Joomla. But I want to be able to have a non-technical user be
>>> able to edit the content for a category of Articles assigned to them, but
>>> don't want anything else visible to them so they don't become confused or
>>> start to mess around with things which could screw up the pages. Before
>>> anyone tells me that the user should go through training and learn how to
>>> manage things so this doesn't happen, while I would agree, that isn't the
>>> case this time.
>>> > >
>>> > > Does such an admin template already exist? Or can Joomla 2.5.4 be
>>> made restrictive enough so when this non-technical user logins in they only
>>> see what they need to? Thanks!
>>> > >
>>> > > David Roth
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>> > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>>> > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>> > >
>>> > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>>> > > http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>> > >
>>> > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>> > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
>>> > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com (mailto:
>>> helvecio.rj at gmail.com)
>>> > http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>



-- 
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Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
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From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Tue May 29 18:18:14 2012
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:18:14 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Admin template for non-technical users?
In-Reply-To: <CAHM6=ODWDbZPeqavSsroDfdKoSagd895uq4mwDw5oYAaD7Eg8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN7=Vv_rt=QmQ0sCRxBifZ91HcyGaSEya=svmv2DV+m+2VQWiQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHM6=ODeFwv1AvHweVBQFwyrKOpOz0N64wqqxUVz695PMt5ZqA@mail.gmail.com>
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That looks very useful, thanks!

I can't help from wondering if someone has created an entire extension that
is a replacement for the back-end that incorporates all these features
without having to make changes in the code. If not, maybe there should be?

David Roth

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>wrote:

> Is this is what you are looking for?
>
>
> http://magazine.joomla.org/issues/Issue-Apr-2012/item/721-Customizing-the-Admin-Menu
>
> 2012/5/29 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com>
>
>> Thanks to both of you! Those articles were very helpful. I had not gotten
>> a chance to check out the ACL feature in Joomla until now.
>>
>> I was wondering while reading it, is there a way to replace the "help"
>> tab so it links to custom documentation for the user instead of the Joomla
>> documentation and links? Thanks!
>>
>> David Roth
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I found this from Jen Kramer (She's GREAT!) in Joomla Magazine. It can
>>> be a kickstart.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://magazine.joomla.org/issues/Issue-May-2012/item/761-Joomla-ACL-Configuring-back-end
>>>
>>> 2012/5/23 OSTraining <info at ostraining.com>
>>>
>>>> Hi David
>>>>
>>>> Give this a try:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ostraining.com/blog/joomla/joomla-acl-tutorial-for-allowing-one-person-to-modify-only-one-category/
>>>>
>>>> That was written a while ago and there's an extra permission now.
>>>>
>>>> You'll also need to go to Site > Global Configuration > Permissions and
>>>> give the new user group permission to "Access Administration Interface"
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > You can use Joomla 2.5.x ACL to acomplish that. A little bit tricky,
>>>> but I believe it can be done.
>>>> >
>>>> > G'luck!
>>>> >
>>>> > 2012/5/23 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com (mailto:
>>>> davidalanroth at gmail.com)>
>>>> > > I've never bothered with any other template for Admin than what is
>>>> supplied with Joomla. But I want to be able to have a non-technical user be
>>>> able to edit the content for a category of Articles assigned to them, but
>>>> don't want anything else visible to them so they don't become confused or
>>>> start to mess around with things which could screw up the pages. Before
>>>> anyone tells me that the user should go through training and learn how to
>>>> manage things so this doesn't happen, while I would agree, that isn't the
>>>> case this time.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Does such an admin template already exist? Or can Joomla 2.5.4 be
>>>> made restrictive enough so when this non-technical user logins in they only
>>>> see what they need to? Thanks!
>>>> > >
>>>> > > David Roth
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>>> > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>>>> > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>>> > >
>>>> > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>>>> > > http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>>> > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
>>>> > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com (mailto:
>>>> helvecio.rj at gmail.com)
>>>> > http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Wed May 30 01:51:54 2012
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 02:51:54 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Admin template for non-technical users?
In-Reply-To: <CAN7=Vv899DHT33tOzB3opNaw4mcB9Pt0RB4+MGtXbK1_TTX6mA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN7=Vv_rt=QmQ0sCRxBifZ91HcyGaSEya=svmv2DV+m+2VQWiQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHM6=ODeFwv1AvHweVBQFwyrKOpOz0N64wqqxUVz695PMt5ZqA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3FF70596EC42493295D2098CEC571854@ostraining.com>
	<CAHM6=ODiCg=e-mpG-LjYLyf_aBZhPmYeRbZRT=Xnb0ORQ0MUmw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN7=Vv8xEUbdr9UgYqL96X=jaBSObRTYZs2mhUHNhxgh0uzGSw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAN7=Vv899DHT33tOzB3opNaw4mcB9Pt0RB4+MGtXbK1_TTX6mA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHM6=ODRJf8_pKx3JO6TrnQT6TO9Z3Ewg5qJU3f92U8WhMuC8Q@mail.gmail.com>

I find the back-end template waaaaaay more complex to fiddle with.

I know of only two so far:

- AdminPraise Lite from the guys who make ProjectFork. There's a premium
version that seems to have more configuration options.
- Mission Control from RocketThem

2012/5/29 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com>

> That looks very useful, thanks!
>
> I can't help from wondering if someone has created an entire extension
> that is a replacement for the back-end that incorporates all these features
> without having to make changes in the code. If not, maybe there should be?
>
> David Roth
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Is this is what you are looking for?
>>
>>
>> http://magazine.joomla.org/issues/Issue-Apr-2012/item/721-Customizing-the-Admin-Menu
>>
>> 2012/5/29 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Thanks to both of you! Those articles were very helpful. I had not
>>> gotten a chance to check out the ACL feature in Joomla until now.
>>>
>>> I was wondering while reading it, is there a way to replace the "help"
>>> tab so it links to custom documentation for the user instead of the Joomla
>>> documentation and links? Thanks!
>>>
>>> David Roth
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Helv?cio da Silva <
>>> helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I found this from Jen Kramer (She's GREAT!) in Joomla Magazine. It can
>>>> be a kickstart.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://magazine.joomla.org/issues/Issue-May-2012/item/761-Joomla-ACL-Configuring-back-end
>>>>
>>>> 2012/5/23 OSTraining <info at ostraining.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi David
>>>>>
>>>>> Give this a try:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ostraining.com/blog/joomla/joomla-acl-tutorial-for-allowing-one-person-to-modify-only-one-category/
>>>>>
>>>>> That was written a while ago and there's an extra permission now.
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll also need to go to Site > Global Configuration > Permissions
>>>>> and give the new user group permission to "Access Administration Interface"
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > You can use Joomla 2.5.x ACL to acomplish that. A little bit tricky,
>>>>> but I believe it can be done.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > G'luck!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2012/5/23 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com (mailto:
>>>>> davidalanroth at gmail.com)>
>>>>> > > I've never bothered with any other template for Admin than what is
>>>>> supplied with Joomla. But I want to be able to have a non-technical user be
>>>>> able to edit the content for a category of Articles assigned to them, but
>>>>> don't want anything else visible to them so they don't become confused or
>>>>> start to mess around with things which could screw up the pages. Before
>>>>> anyone tells me that the user should go through training and learn how to
>>>>> manage things so this doesn't happen, while I would agree, that isn't the
>>>>> case this time.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Does such an admin template already exist? Or can Joomla 2.5.4 be
>>>>> made restrictive enough so when this non-technical user logins in they only
>>>>> see what they need to? Thanks!
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > David Roth
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>>>>> > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>>>>> > > http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>>>> > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
>>>>> > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com (mailto:
>>>>> helvecio.rj at gmail.com)
>>>>> > http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>



-- 
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Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
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From info at ostraining.com  Wed May 30 07:58:08 2012
From: info at ostraining.com (OSTraining)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 07:58:08 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Admin template for non-technical users?
In-Reply-To: <CAHM6=ODRJf8_pKx3JO6TrnQT6TO9Z3Ewg5qJU3f92U8WhMuC8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN7=Vv_rt=QmQ0sCRxBifZ91HcyGaSEya=svmv2DV+m+2VQWiQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHM6=ODeFwv1AvHweVBQFwyrKOpOz0N64wqqxUVz695PMt5ZqA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3FF70596EC42493295D2098CEC571854@ostraining.com>
	<CAHM6=ODiCg=e-mpG-LjYLyf_aBZhPmYeRbZRT=Xnb0ORQ0MUmw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN7=Vv8xEUbdr9UgYqL96X=jaBSObRTYZs2mhUHNhxgh0uzGSw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHM6=ODWDbZPeqavSsroDfdKoSagd895uq4mwDw5oYAaD7Eg8Q@mail.gmail.com>
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There's the two that ship with Joomla (BlueStork and Hathor), five more in the article below and three more linked in the comments:

http://www.ostraining.com/blog/joomla/joomla-admin-templates/

There's also a few more floating around including the work done on this Joomla distro: http://squareonecms.com/. Quite a few of those changes might make Joomla 3.

Steve  


On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:

> I find the back-end template waaaaaay more complex to fiddle with.  
>  
> I know of only two so far:
>  
> - AdminPraise Lite from the guys who make ProjectFork. There's a premium version that seems to have more configuration options.
> - Mission Control from RocketThem
>  
> 2012/5/29 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com (mailto:davidalanroth at gmail.com)>
> > That looks very useful, thanks!
> >  
> > I can't help from wondering if someone has created an entire extension that is a replacement for the back-end that incorporates all these features without having to make changes in the code. If not, maybe there should be?  
> >  
> > David Roth
> >  
> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com (mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > Is this is what you are looking for?
> > >  
> > > http://magazine.joomla.org/issues/Issue-Apr-2012/item/721-Customizing-the-Admin-Menu
> > >  
> > > 2012/5/29 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com (mailto:davidalanroth at gmail.com)>
> > > > Thanks to both of you! Those articles were very helpful. I had not gotten a chance to check out the ACL feature in Joomla until now.
> > > >  
> > > > I was wondering while reading it, is there a way to replace the "help" tab so it links to custom documentation for the user instead of the Joomla documentation and links? Thanks!  
> > > >  
> > > > David Roth
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com (mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > > I found this from Jen Kramer (She's GREAT!) in Joomla Magazine. It can be a kickstart.
> > > > >  
> > > > > http://magazine.joomla.org/issues/Issue-May-2012/item/761-Joomla-ACL-Configuring-back-end
> > > > >  
> > > > > 2012/5/23 OSTraining <info at ostraining.com (mailto:info at ostraining.com)>
> > > > > > Hi David
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > Give this a try:
> > > > > > http://www.ostraining.com/blog/joomla/joomla-acl-tutorial-for-allowing-one-person-to-modify-only-one-category/
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > That was written a while ago and there's an extra permission now.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > You'll also need to go to Site > Global Configuration > Permissions and give the new user group permission to "Access Administration Interface"
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > You can use Joomla 2.5.x ACL to acomplish that. A little bit tricky, but I believe it can be done.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > G'luck!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2012/5/23 David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com (mailto:davidalanroth at gmail.com) (mailto:davidalanroth at gmail.com)>
> > > > > > > > I've never bothered with any other template for Admin than what is supplied with Joomla. But I want to be able to have a non-technical user be able to edit the content for a category of Articles assigned to them, but don't want anything else visible to them so they don't become confused or start to mess around with things which could screw up the pages. Before anyone tells me that the user should go through training and learn how to manage things so this doesn't happen, while I would agree, that isn't the case this time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does such an admin template already exist? Or can Joomla 2.5.4 be made restrictive enough so when this non-technical user logins in they only see what they need to? Thanks!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > David Roth
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> > > > > > > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > > > > > > > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > > > > > > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> > > > > > > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com (mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com) (mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com)
> > > > > > > http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
> > > >  
> >  
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> >  
> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >  
> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>  
>  
>  
> --  
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com (mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com)
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>  
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>  
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>  
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>  
>  


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From Kirill at hostnetservices.com  Thu May 31 09:46:06 2012
From: Kirill at hostnetservices.com (Kirill Poliakov)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:46:06 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Joomla graphic designer
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From jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com  Thu May 31 16:46:50 2012
From: jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com (Janet Sullivan)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:46:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Multiple menus?
Message-ID: <1338497210.38737.YahooMailNeo@web160401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Is adding multiple menus to a single module position an "ok" thing to do?
Or will I cause myself grief as I build out the site?? 

What about adding 2 different menus to the exact same place in a module, each menu will show only on selected pages?Can that work?? Or am I setting myself up for a train wreck?

Also, what tools do folks use for testing multiple browsers?

Thanks in advance for the advice.

Janet Sullivan
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From Kirill at hostnetservices.com  Thu May 31 17:29:47 2012
From: Kirill at hostnetservices.com (Kirill Poliakov)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:29:47 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Multiple menus?
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From rakics at gmail.com  Thu May 31 17:50:40 2012
From: rakics at gmail.com (Sasa Rakic - Gmail)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:50:40 +0200
Subject: [joomla] Multiple menus?
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Hi Kirill,

 

Could you please tell me at what number I can call you, I have tried to find
over the net

Contact phone but with no access. I would like to present my team, for
Joomla projects.

I personal think phone contact is best than simple email communication.

 

Best Regards,

Sasa

 

From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Kirill Poliakov

Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:46 PM

To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla

Subject: [joomla] Joomla graphic designer

 

Hello everyone,

 

Can anyone recommend a graphic designer, hopefully who is familiar with
Joomla.

 

Thanks,

 

Kirill

 

From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Kirill Poliakov
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [joomla] Multiple menus?

 

Janet,

I have done that but used different menu modules - this way you can control
position, font, color.   This way you can have Help, Contact on the right in
small font and the main menu on the left  in bigger font.  

It is a tricky configuration.  

Kirill

From: Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com>
To: NYPHP Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>, 
Date: 05/31/2012 04:47 PM
Subject: [joomla] Multiple menus?
Sent by: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org

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Is adding multiple menus to a single module position an "ok" thing to do?
Or will I cause myself grief as I build out the site?  
What about adding 2 different menus to the exact same place in a module,
each menu will show only on selected pages?
Can that work?  Or am I setting myself up for a train wreck?

Also, what tools do folks use for testing multiple browsers?

Thanks in advance for the advice.
Janet Sullivan
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From Kirill at hostnetservices.com  Thu May 31 18:22:29 2012
From: Kirill at hostnetservices.com (Kirill Poliakov)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:22:29 -0400
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From rakics at gmail.com  Thu May 31 18:26:39 2012
From: rakics at gmail.com (Sasa Rakic - Gmail)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:26:39 +0200
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Hi Kirill,

 

I am apology for trying to reach you this way, if I need to ask you more
questions

I will send you private email.

 

Best Regards,

Sasa

 

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On Behalf Of Kirill Poliakov
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:22 AM
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Sasa,

 This is bad form !  You  are hijacking a thread with unrelated personal
conversation.

Apology is in order.

Kirill 

From: "Sasa Rakic - Gmail" <rakics at gmail.com>
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Date: 05/31/2012 05:51 PM
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  _____  




Hi Kirill,
 
Could you please tell me at what number I can call you, I have tried to find
over the net
Contact phone but with no access. I would like to present my team, for
Joomla projects.
I personal think phone contact is best than simple email communication.
 
Best Regards,
Sasa
 
From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Kirill Poliakov
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:46 PM
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla
Subject: [joomla] Joomla graphic designer
 
Hello everyone,
 
Can anyone recommend a graphic designer, hopefully who is familiar with
Joomla.
 
Thanks,
 
Kirill
 
From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Kirill Poliakov
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [joomla] Multiple menus?
  

Janet,

I have done that but used different menu modules - this way you can control
position, font, color.   This way you can have Help, Contact on the right in
small font and the main menu on the left  in bigger font.  

It is a tricky configuration.  

Kirill

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  _____  





Is adding multiple menus to a single module position an "ok" thing to do?
Or will I cause myself grief as I build out the site?  
What about adding 2 different menus to the exact same place in a module,
each menu will show only on selected pages?
Can that work?  Or am I setting myself up for a train wreck?

Also, what tools do folks use for testing multiple browsers?

Thanks in advance for the advice.
Janet Sullivan
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From jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com  Thu May 31 21:51:21 2012
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Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:51:21 -0700 (PDT)
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Hmmm.....not sure I understand what you are telling me....can you elaborate, or use an example?
I can send you the link to the site that I am building if that would help....

I tried using different module positions for the various menus, but had difficulty? getting all the menus to show
in the the right? place on the page...that's when I opted to put the menu all in the same module position.? The menus
all have different font, icons, etc. but I thought I could do that with the menu suffix class.....

Thanks for taking the time to advise...

?
Janet Sullivan



________________________________
 From: Kirill Poliakov <Kirill at hostnetservices.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org> 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Multiple menus?
 

Janet,

I have done that but used different menu modules - this way you can control position, font, color. ? This way you can have Help, Contact on the right in small font and the main menu on the left ?in bigger font. ?

It is a tricky configuration. ?

Kirill

From: Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com>
To: NYPHP Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>, 
Date: 05/31/2012 04:47 PM
Subject: [joomla] Multiple menus?
Sent by: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org

________________________________



Is adding multiple menus to a single module position an "ok" thing to do?
Or will I cause myself grief as I build out the site? ?
What about adding 2 different menus to the exact same place in a module, each menu will show only on selected pages?
Can that work? ?Or am I setting myself up for a train wreck?

Also, what tools do folks use for testing multiple browsers?

Thanks in advance for the advice.
Janet Sullivan
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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Thu May 31 23:16:03 2012
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I can recommend myself.

I'm a graphic designer and Joomla expert.

Can I help you?

2012/5/31 Kirill Poliakov <Kirill at hostnetservices.com>

> Hello everyone,
>
> Can anyone recommend a graphic designer, hopefully who is familiar with
> Joomla.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kirill
>
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